HI andy, a lot of what you have said makes a loit of sense. My only negative on that is.....no matter how you \'choose\' your sponsor they can change and I have found most do when you are not the \'High flyer they wanted\'!

A lot of people out there want to plod and make a serious income without the villa in spain etc. I like plodders as well as the flyers

Whether you are in a job or in business there will always be situations where you don`t hit it off with the boss or business partner, thats just life. It will be no different in Kleeneze or EE.

All I can say is I personally do as much as I can to help people get what they want from Kleeneze and I look to encourage everybody to achieve to their potential.

I would consider myself as one of those plodders... just kept going and now it is paying off.

Kleeneze is a business opportunity, the company supply the tools, we supply the know how... it is up to the individual to make the most of the opportunity.

I see it as a great opportunity, got me out of the 9 - 5 trap, improved the quality of my life, increased my income and I really enjoy being a Kleeneze Distributor.

I wish you every success in EE.

Andy Cooper
0117 9819 526
www.AmbitiousIncomes.com
andy@ezesupport.com

So if I live in your area where can I do EE?

Surely if we are wanting to join a MLM Business then living in the same area as another EE Distributor is not a problem!
99% of the UK don\'t receive a brochure.
If you are wanting to Retail to earn money then an area will be available.
But lets not forget that MLM is about lots of people doing a little bit!
If the whole of my Village want to join EE i\'m not going to turn them down because it will affect my personal retail.

Everyday Essentials is truly a New and Exciting Business!

www.myessentials.biz/gold

How large are the areas for kleeneze and everydayessentials - how many houses?

We are Kleeneze Distributors, team of around 250, turnover this year £1.5 million, income £45,000+ Joined for £100 per week and just kept going. I have loads of successful people in my team who live local to me. In Kleeneze we do not have areas as this resticts team and personal growth. Non area system has worked very well for us, I would not have joined a company that manages its Distributors ie has territories.

Feel free to contact me anytime to chat.

andyftg@blueyonder.co.uk
www.AmbitiousIncomes.com
01179 819526

Best wishes
Andy Cooper

AND you don`t have to ba able to get your web address right to make money - 3rd time lucky!!! [EDITOR - Removed the last 2 posts B) ]

Post edited by: lyndonw, at: 2005/12/14 15:40

hi missexy, in EE you define your own area. if you only want an extra £50 a week you\'ll have a few hundred houses, if you want a full-time income you could have 10,000 houses plus. you decide. this is exactly the same as kleeneze except we formalise it so you will not be competing against 2,3,4 or more distributors from the same company.

the principle reason why 500 people a week quit kleeneze is because they find so many other kleeneze distributors working in the same area as themselves (that 500 figure comes from William Rollason, Kleeneze Chief Executive)

We\'re trying to look after our distributors by giving them their own area to build, paying then much higher commissions, and supporting them with internet sales. We\'re trying to avoid such high failure rates and distributor churn.

as time goes on we\'ll have to get tighter with areas but that\'s gonna take years. after all, KL say they only cover 25% of the UK after 15 years of networking, and betterware haven\'t reached saturation either. there\'s plenty of space for all!

i spent two years with KL reaching an income of £35k in year two but switched because kleeneze\'s sales are no longer growing in the uk. Even Chris Mason-Paull, Andy\'s upline and, imho, the most respected person in Kleeneze, has seen his sales figures fall.

andy is one of KLs most successful and respected leaders. yet even he is losing Gold distributors to EE (one of his frontline Gold\'s asked to join my team, for example)

EE isn\'t perfect, no biz or job can be, but there are very good reasons why successful kl people like us are switching to EE and I think 2006 is gonna be a very very interesting year for us!

Paul
01502 561859
www.everydayearner.co.uk

Hey Paul... u should have been at our Fast-Track Group Christmas party - if that was an indicator as to the enthusiasm, team spirit, optimism for the biz that we have u might have a different angle on Kze. We were rocking!! Our biz hit record sales this month and this year + record numbers of distributors hitting Gold and qualifying for overseas trips etc. Our curve has always been up - because we stay focused and enjoy what we do.

I am sure EE is great. My 2 resrvations with EE - areas in the long term will hold your business back (Avon have just changed from areas to Kze style no areas - must be a reason for that??) and as a company... expansion will create growing pains - I am not sure I could place my future with a company that, as it grows may not be able to finance that growth. Kleeneze are fiancially able to keep pace with planned expansion, ie new warehouse etc + ongoing improvements in catalogue design through to delivery system. (I know because I am on several company focus groups , so aware of nitty gritty happening from within the company) - if there were doubts in my mind I would not be so massively positive about this business - not just blind faith. Being an ex Fraud Investigator I also get to know what is going on especially in my own biz/kze.

We can play Kze v EE all day long - both are great companies, down to personal choice, but who ever you join etc make sure you are comfortable with your sponsor as they will be a business partner and may even be a great friend in the future. Choose wisely.

Andy Cooper
0117 9819 526


Andy Cooper
01179 819526

hi andy, i too don\'t think much of those who need to knock another biz to try and prove theirs is better.

And yes you\'re right about choosing your sponsor well. if I had joined the right team (maybe yours) it\'s possible I\'d still be in KL. I\'m fairly confident I\'d have earned £40-45k in my third year and I still walked away so maybe not. We\'ll never know.

The home-shopping market is exploding and severely under-exploited right now so i\'m very confident in EEs future. I also think Oriflame will expand the market. To me, it seems similar to the Stout market which exploded when Murphys, Beamish etc came along and suddenly Guinness experienced a signficant rise in sales as well.

I believe KLs area policy is a major factor in their lack of UK growth in recent years and i\'m not overly confident in KLs finances but we could argue that forever and not convince each other (as if both of us had nothing better to do! )

Best of luck for 2006. I hope your team grows as well as it has this year.

cheers
paul
01502 561859
www.everydayearner.co.uk

Have a great 2006... and who ever is looking in on this chat - make a decision to change your future... get into Networking, join a good company, EE, Kleeneze ... whoever and just grab the opportunity with both hands.

Andy Cooper
0117 9819 526
www.AmbitiousIncomes.com

We've been in Kleeneze for just over 4 years and can't think of anything we'd rather be doing. We have a great lifestyle, work when we want & have a great circle of friends - not the usual workplace mentality types but genuine people with out of the box thinking habits.

The system is very fair, you earn what you are worth. We like the fact that you can earn a 30-40k income from just retail, people in the corporate world would be pleased with that even.

To be a success in any business requires hard work, Kleeneze is no different. If you want massive success then you have to accept massive failure and if you aren't failing you aren't doing it properly.

Adam & Helen
0121 275 1913
infopack@freedom.uk.net
www.kleeneze.biz